My Uphill Battle with Learning Chinese-Mandarin

For those who keep up with my blog, I’m sure you’ve seen many references to me learning Mandarin, or Putonghua for those who prefer it being referred to as that. A little background on my “language” abilities. I have grown up in a household of speaking Cantonese, with only English “taught” to me at home, but it was expected I speak Cantonese at home. I remember when I went through that phase of ‘just’ wanting to speak English, my parents told me clearly that if I’m unable to ask for something in Cantonese, it was not happening – this included if I asked for something to eat. I’m sure in today’s standard, that would be considered child-abuse, but my parents idea was if you can’t ask for it in Cantonese, you aren’t getting it! I’m quite glad I was forced to learn Cantonese because it is so damn useful knowing a different language, especially your ‘own’ language.

I was enrolled in “Chinese school” (you’ll understand why I quote that later) for about 6 years. I met a lot of friends there and we were all native Chinese, with those varying from general communication vocabulary to those who could barely say ‘good morning’ to their parents in the morning. Nevertheless, through those 6 years, I cannot say I learn a great deal. Most of my learning just simply came from using it at home and watching Chinese movies. Although in class we were taught to read, write, speak and understand Chinese (Cantonese dialect), during recess or anytime the students communicated with each other, it was all in English. The class was much more of a place for you to “drop off your kids for a few hours” rather than true, hardcore learning. Then again, these classes combined kids from 5 to 15, making an “appropriate teaching level” incredibly hard, especially when you have those who were much more fluent such as I compared to those of my friends who could barely say their own names in Cantonese. I remember I used to loathe my parents for forcing me to learn a language that I would ‘not be practical’ – but let’s face it.. look around the world, Chinese (particularly Mandarin) is working its way up to being one of world’s “international business language.” I’ve seen many Caucasian people taking up an interest in learning Mandarin, mostly because it can move them quickly up the ladder and especially if you plan on doing business with China. Although when I return to Hong Kong I have problems navigating or ordering at places that have menus strictly in Chinese, at the very least I can speak and listen well enough to hold my own.

So before I started learning Mandarin, I had an excellent grasp of spoken/listening to Cantonese, very minor written/reading comprehension of Chinese characters and almost completely fluent in written/reading/spoken/listening of English. Although I had always known that knowing more languages never hurts, languages are not a particularly easy thing to learn… or at least not for me. Also, females seem to be a lot more adept at picking up languages than guys due to biological factors. I remember that I was one of the top 3 students in my grade during high school in French. My French teacher had highly encouraged me to continuing my pursuit of French due to “natural ability” for it. The truth is I didn’t have any natural ability in French, I simply studied very hard for my class, with many hours dedicated when I got home to learning enough to do well on my tests. In the end, I stopped taking French after my mandatory credit year because I just didn’t feel like it was useful in my future career field (in computers). Secondly, learning French was very hard for me, so as much as my teacher thought I had a knack for it, I really didn’t.

The reason I never took up Mandarin before was because I saw it as a language of little use to me. To me, speaking Cantonese was already enough, along with the most useful language in Canada, English. My cousin had always said I should definitely pick up Mandarin so I can hit on all those cute Taiwanese chicks. I’ve never found a Taiwanese girl I’ve really been interested in, so I never felt that desire to learn it. Furthermore, I have this unfortunate (and I’m not claiming it to be correct) equation of Mandarin and China-Mainlander girls who I did not have the most positive feelings about. Over time as I was deciding to pick up Mandarin so that communication would be easier between bebe and I and furthermore, hoping to bridge that gap of communication between her family and friends with me, it took a lot of effort for me to bring myself to learning a language which I have no grasp of at all. You may think, “Hey, you know Cantonese… so therefore, Mandarin must be very easy for you!” – this is not the case as much as you may think.

Cantonese, Mandarin and the many dialects spoken within China all share a common base, it is the written form of Chinese characters. Before my mom’s Mandarin was more fluent, she volunteered at an organization where there was a Mandarin-speaking lady. Although a lot of the communication were in English, when they could not convey what they wanted to, they wrote it out in Chinese. For me, it is harder for me to build the connection between Cantonese and Mandarin spoken forms is because I have a very minor understanding of written Chinese. It’s easy for my mom because she can put 1 and 1 together… “So this characters sounds like X in Cantonese and sounds like Y in Mandarin based on what I read.” and since I cannot read it very well, I can’t equate X with Y. As you can see, this makes learning Mandarin for me a very uphill battle.

Why did I start learning Mandarin? I began to learn it when I returned from Hong Kong this year. Bebe had expressed to me that she sometimes finds it uncomfortable that I am not able to understand her in her language. Suffice to say, although we share two common languages, Cantonese and English, I can understand her want of me to learn her language. Even I think it would make hanging out with her friends and spending time with her family much more convenient. As you may have read, I had a dislike of learning Mandarin, but sure enough, I feel that I can put forth much effort in learning this language to make future communication a lot easier. Learning languages when you’re older is not like learning it when you’re young. My brain is much slower to absorb and it takes actual effort. When I was young, I barely recall how I truly “learned” languages other than listening to people use it and it’d naturally kick-in. As I got older, this is no longer the case. Although I listen to a lot of people speak Mandarin around me, prior to me starting my lessons, it was just a bunch of words that floated in one ear and out the other.

Switching from Cantonese and learning Mandarin is quite hard because Mandarin is the “original” and “proper” way of the Chinese language. Speaking Mandarin follows the strict written form of Chinese, unlike Cantonese where we have lots of words that don’t even exist in the written form or even within the actual Chinese dictionary. In fact, a lot of my Mandarin-speaking friends have problems picking up Cantonese because we like to use “non-existent” words. Bebe has amazingly mastered Cantonese, probably from watching all those TVB dramas. My realization and pain was having to relearn many of the vocabulary I use. Something as simple as saying “house” 屋企 does not actually exist within the realm of Mandarin and written Chinese. Although those who speak Cantonese and Mandarin might be able to understand that if you were to use those characters together in Mandarin, it is definitely not the PROPER way of saying it. 房子 is the proper written and Mandarin spoken form of house. There is much slang used in Cantonese, so it has taken me a lot of reworking of my brain to deal with the “formalized” Chinese. Mandarin is easy if you have grown up properly learning written Chinese as written Chinese follows-suit with spoken Mandarin. Cantonese not only has a lot of slang, but literally, a bastardized version of Mandarin and Chinese. Mandarin is a very formal and cultivated (斯文) language and I never realized this until I began learning it. Before I started learning Mandarin, I also found it to be a very annoying language, because I suppose it sounded like screeching to me. I ended up relating that to the fact that the people I hear speaking Mandarin aren’t the more “elegant” types. Listening to a very gentle, Mandarin-speaking girls or even  Taiwanese ones (although Taiwanese people have their own language-set, they share a lot of the wording with traditional Mandarin) is actually very sexy. Mandarin really is beautiful when it comes out from the right mouth… haha, especially bebe’s!

People have always complained that I speak English way too fast – most notably when I’m presenting. Teachers always used to say that I got too nervous when presenting and I’d begin to speak really fast, but then I explained to them that it is due to habit of speaking Cantonese. Chinese languages in generally are extremely fast and pronunciations can be VERY easy to miss. I never noticed I spoke very quickly in Cantonese though, but now when I listen to bebe talk on the phone with her friends, I realized that Mandarin is also a very fast-paced language… that is bad, from a learning perspective, lol. When I listen to people speak Mandarin slowly, I have time to notice the tones and decode the word. When they speak fast, I’m trying to absorb so much I only catch bits and pieces of it. Of course I need to adapt to listening to it and decoding it fast enough, but that will come with time and exposure. I always hoped that when we go out, bebe can use some easy communication with me in Mandarin, but I try to avoid it with her mainly because I don’t think she has the patience to teach me her language and all that would do is get her frustrated and then become even more negative. I’m not saying I could even hold up a complex conversation as well as I can in English or Cantonese, but that is a START.

Rosetta Stone - Mandarin

Rosetta Stone - Mandarin

I started using a program called Rosetta Stone. I did a lot of research into this program before getting it because it is a lot of money. It’s about $500 for the entire Mandarin Chinese box set. Yes, I am nuts, all that damn money right? Well, it’s for bebe and there’s almost nothing that I wouldn’t do for her to help our relationship. One could argue learning a new language is only for my own gain, but the reality is why ELSE would I need to learn this language otherwise? Everywhere I need to go I can get away with just English and if necessary, Cantonese. This program is incredibly long and built with much complexity – not complexity for the student, but the way they make it WORK. I’m absolutely amazed by how much I have learned. Even my mom, as rare as it may be, expressed how proud she is that I can pick up the language so quickly. Now, I’m not saying I’m a professional Mandarin speaker now, but compared to how crappy my Mandarin was before (or try, not even knowing any, lol) – it is a huge JUMP over a matter of 2 months. For the first few sections, I did relatively fast, however, I am beginning to slow down. This is not because I’m losing the drive to learn, but because the chapters are beginning to become harder, making fast chapter advancements much slower. I’d much rather take the time to perfect it and truly understand it, rather than trying to jump ahead for the sake of “getting further.”

What makes this program so amazing when there are so many language-learning programs out there right? Well, I’ve experienced it first hand myself, WOW! They use a method called “Dynamic Immersion” and while there are times when it simply tries to drill things in your head over and over again, you don’t feel it much – unlike at school. Honestly, there were times I quit a chapter and said to myself, “Damn, there’s no way I can even remember this” and then I walk away. When I think of it a day later, all of a sudden I realized I could remember it… in fact, almost crystal-clear. It makes me amazed at how well they’re able to make things stick in your head. I didn’t even know I learned that stuff when I actually DID! One of the biggest things about learning a new language is finding someone to speak it with you. Luckily, I have many friends who are native-Mandarin speakers, who help me along my way. However, I still find it tough to bring myself to have conversations with them. On the other hand, when I go out to places like T&T or even at the Chinese food place in the mall, I dare to speak it with them – however little I can do. I know that unlike a fluent-speaker, I spit out word-by-word rather than “smoothly” – but at least I should get credit for ATTEMPTING it rather bravely. The reality is that when I speak to these people, they may be laughing inside at my horrible attempt to ‘speak their language’ – but I may never see them again, so it’s easier to get over my follies. On the other hand, speaking to someone I know always seems rather embarrassing when I can’t get the right words out. I wish I was more like my dad because he told me when he came to Canada, his English still wasn’t “all the way there” and he’d often carry a dictionary around as he conversed and eventually, built up his language skills enough to be fluent. Nevertheless, he always said to me, “Sure, I’m sure those people laughed at me when I tried to speak English, but I don’t care what they think!” – if I had that kind of courage, I’d be much better off.

I think about this entire learning process, I must say, it is rather wonderful. Every time I complete each “section” just a small fraction of a chapter, I feel extremely proud. I know bebe is feeding me the willpower and the intellect to continue learning. I’ve lost motivation many times in the past, particularly with working out, lol, because I lack that DRIVE. This time, bebe is providing me with this drive, enabling my mind to stay concentrated and to focus on learning this language. Bebe is also giving me a reason to learn it, because it will help improve our communication ability with each other and also, making sure that I understand what’s happening around me when her family or friends are speaking Mandarin. Do I dare say that I’ll be able to decode everything that will happen around me? Well, maybe and maybe not. As I get more exposure to Mandarin, hopefully through her and interactions with family and friends, I’ll be able to pick up on “real” lessons through experience and immersion – rather than just through this program. Although I may only be able to communicate effectively after finishing the entire 3 sets , further immersion into her environment will truly help me to build upon what I learned and make my language learning practical.

For those who are learning Mandarin or perhaps even a different language, I will definitely vouch for Rosetta Stone being a great tool. I’m not sure whether it effectively replaces a “teacher” or “in-class lesson” – but I’ll tell you it’s definitely cheaper and less time consuming. The odd thing is this type of learning style doesn’t require “homework” – but reinforces the learning very well. Conversely, many of the “taught” courses all require in-class lessons along with homework to accomplish the same thing. According to them, you learn naturally, speak confidently and stay motivated. The way they teach the language simulates the way that children learn languages, therefore making it effortless for me to learn it. Like I said, I didn’t even realize I learned half the things I actually did. By matching apple with apple, it made the learning experience EASY. Speaking confidently, I definitely do it well in front of the computer. This programs has a state-of-the-art voice recognition system which is very important particularly for Mandarin because of the word enunciation and that tone is absolutely CRUCIAL. Sometimes I get tongue-tied saying something and it forces me to say it over and over again until I get it right! Of course when I actually speak it with people, they don’t ask me to “say it again” (unless it’s REALLY messed up) and we make do with trying to communicate with what I do know. Staying motivated is amazing how they do it. Because the program allows you to go at your own pace, repeat things, pause on things, fast forward and doesn’t hassle you – I feel very RELAXED when I’m taking these lessons. These lessons also feel very fulfilling after I complete them, I get a sense of, “Hey, I’m doing better!”

Looking at one of the words I learned, I almost know I’m going to trip on it one time and get my ass laughed off. Nevertheless, it’ll be pretty funny. Washroom is 衛生間 or pronounced wei sheng jian. Sanitary napkin is 衛生巾 or pronounced wei sheng jin. Whether or not you can properly read pinyin, as you can see, the sounding of those are EXTREMELY close, lol. Maybe to a native Mandarin speaker, they can easily separate the tones of jian and jin, but I can’t do it very well at the moment and I need to continue to ensure I hit the right tones XD Can you imagine the embarrassment if I said the wrong thing? LOL! Um.. “Excuse me, where can I find the WASHROOM?” 😆 — can you see the potential for major catastrophe there? HAH! Of course I wouldn’t mind being led to the sanitary napkins section if I was in a supermarket, but how weird would that be if I asked that in a restaurant? Oh man…

Anyways, so today, I was planning to have a lighthearted discussion with bebe. I told her I missed her while she was away and asked her if she felt the same. Obviously she couldn’t answer that, so then I kind of asked her why she still doesn’t feel like that. I was not planning on having a huge argument over it because when I asked her, it was simply of inquisitive nature and I wasn’t intending to imply she was “not being fulfilling enough” – which is what I guess she ended up perceiving it as. It was really just an innocent and perhaps grin-and-ask type question, one of those ones you never really expect an answer for. I expected a shrug and a “I just don’t feel ready yet” answer and then that would’ve been the end of that and moved on. Unfortunately, because of my stinking big mouth, it erupted into a very negative situation. The bad thing is that if I had just said nothing, it wouldn’t have caused all of this.

Sometimes I tell myself I’m so fucking stupid for saying things like that. I know that I understand myself and that I know when I am joking or just prodding at her – but sometimes she doesn’t know when I’m doing that and then she ends up taking things the wrong way. I was in no way telling her or wanting to making her feel she wasn’t “holding up her end” because she is – I can tell just from the past 3 months that she’s been trying her best to bring those feelings to surface, so there is NO blame at all that I’m placing on her. But unfortunately, by asking, I brought some negativity to the surface and that was purely my fault for bringing it up. Perhaps when I wanted just grin-on-my-face jokingness, it ended up not so well when I can’t convey tone/facial expression properly. It kind of pissed me off WHY I would even say such things… sometimes I question my own intelligence. I know that when she’s ready to take the relationship to the next step, she’ll tell me so, whether verbally or through body language, why would I be so foolish as to even ask her these things, particularly when she has problems conveying her thoughts? ARG. Can’t I just keep my mouth shut sometimes? I totally instigated this… she trailed into a conversation where it was a defining moment whether we would erupt this into something and I still stepped into it by having to make a statement about it. Why must I have an opinion on everything? I should learn what my mom taught me about just holding back sometimes. Ever since my dad passed away, my mom had always said she looked back and wonder why they got into arguments sometimes. It dawned upon her that sometimes if she had just held back her “thoughts” and not always “take a stance” on everything, there would never be a catalyst to start an argument. I know that if I just didn’t comment on what bebe said and I had to “throw my 2-cents of thought” into the conversation, none of this would have happened. I know that it doesn’t change the reality of the situation, but it DOES prevent something like this that gives her MORE leverage and negativity.

I had to completely steer clear of anymore relationship-related stuff because I didn’t want this to fester. The last thing I need is something to give us more reasons to throw at each other. Best to keep the calm and keep the peace. Unlike other couples, maybe we should not talk about the direction of our relationship, and just accept it as-is, lol. Oh, I definitely need less opinions on everything… or well at least not express them. As of the last time I saw her, things were beautiful and we were growing closer. Something happened over the past week with her friend that has really drawn this negativity out in her. I would think perhaps it was relationship or family-related that happened with her friend that seemed to throw a wrench into the crankshaft. Bebe had been so positive about our relationship, up to the last week when she was away at her friend’s and something was amidst. I need to work on embracing bebe’s comfort level with me, making sure that she doesn’t feel like she’s bad in this relationship or the failing point. NEITHER of us are a failing point and we can’t let this relationship fail. I promised bebe I’d continue to be whole I am and told her to stop feeling like she’s “not giving me enough” because I’m not asking for more, I’m asking her to be who she is until she wants to give me more. Sometimes I guess she feels like I’m pushing her or feeling like I’m implying she’s not being satisfying enough. I’m definitely NOT trying to convey that as much as sometimes I ask her things about our direction, I simply want to “know” things – but not with the intention of pushing her beyond her limits at the moment. I know that bebe’s the type of girl that when she feels she’s ready, she’ll step up to the plate – just like she did for us the first time and now is like no other – we will overcome these obstacles together and we will grow and learn to cherish each other in all the right ways to come!

Alan Tam 譚詠麟 – 小風波






Oddly enough, I was JUST listening to this song yesterday so I thought it’d be very fitting today to post it. I blame myself for instigating this argument because I could’ve avoided it all had I just not pushed her buttons. Sometimes I even find myself annoying, why do I purposely do things like that? LOL. It’s kind of like the kid who sees a puddle and still jumps into it, knowing very well that he’ll get dirty! This song is about all the “trivial issues” that couples run into but in the end, he (the singer) expresses that no matter what matters come up, that she (the song recipient) is still the one and only person to him. I really believe in the power of words, because hearing these lyrics makes me think of these stupid little things I do to bebe and although most of it are misunderstandings. Even though bebe and I may sometimes do something that the other end “doesn’t like” – I still know that I need to make myself clear that she is the one and only special girl for me and that these little matters can be overcome. I admit I am wrong to her when I am, and apologize deeply for my mistakes.

I don’t have any pre-translated English versions of this, so if you can understand it – great – if not, oh well 😛 Just skip this part, haha.

Funny tidbit that I never realized how learning Mandarin would help me… I can (partially/fully) understand the pad/tampon commercials that are in Mandarin now, LOL! 😀

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  1. Why don’t u just use 厕所 ce suo instead of 卫生间 wei sheng jian. Saves u the embarrassment if u read it wrongly.

    • Hah, true enough! I didn’t know that 厕所 was “proper” Chinese.. I thought it was more of a Cantonese saying. That’s another kicker about learning Mandarin, there are so many different ways to represent one thing that I need to learn all the “variations” of a single word. I’m not saying English and Cantonese doesn’t have that either, but I suppose it’s just a struggle for me for Mandarin because I’m still learning one word, let alone multiple words all for the same thing.

      Thanks for putting that out as I’ve also found 洗手間 as well. The reason why I used wei sheng jian was because that was what was taught in the program. I guess the program sticks to the formal Mandarin language. When I looked up ce suo in the Mandarin-Cantonese-English dictionary, it was marked as being an “informal wording” to toilet.

      This is what it said…
      [國] Although this can be used in Mandarin, 洗手間 is generally preferred.
      [粵] unpolished slang: 屎坑

  2. I’m sure when bebe sees all the progress u’ve made n’ tht ur able to understand thgs u say, she will b vry proud too 😀 I’m so happy to c tht u r actually satisfied w/ the amount u r learning. Ur alwayz one of those ppl who r not easily satisified by ur performance 😆 – so to c u r happy w/ tht is truly a gd sign! I kno ur mom must also b happy to c tht her son is nt onli learning a new language, but more importantly she knos ur doin’ if for a special girl in ur life. BOTH of those things together must bring ur mommy great joys, coz she’s nt seen tht dedication frum u w/o the encouragement of bebe!

    U kno, even I nvr imagined u wuld reali go learn… it wuz alwayz juz smthg u said u ‘wanted’ to do, but nvr had a reason to go forth. Whether or nt u evr attain the same level tht bebe n’ her family/friends can speak at, just being able to hold up a conversation is already vry impressive. Think abt it, mebe now u won’t hate going to Mandarin-speaking areas so much 😆 – n’ imagine tht, u can now swt-talk all those China and Taiwanese girls xDD Shhh… I won’t tell bebe, kakaka.

    So I gt ur msg this morning but I accidentally left my Skype on, how r u feeling 2day?

    • LOL, no hitting on other chicks is permitted for me, that is unless bebe goes hit on other guys. But even then, I wouldn’t take it out on her… I’d find the guy and have a little ‘chat’ with him 😆

      You know, I was actually feeling pretty shitty yesterday morning/afternoon. You’re right, I need to be more careful about how I treat my body and how I let bebe affect me. All my illnesses came back after that day we yelled at each other. I started to feel sick-to-my-stomach after.

      I couldn’t sleep, I couldn’t eat in the morning.. I had like, 1 EGG. When I got to work, I felt like barfing out the egg I ate… I flipped between feeling hungry and not hungry throughout the day. My heart would palpitate… sometimes it’d be super fast… I couldn’t breath properly like I was no air around. I had no appetite at lunch… mom packed me 2 sandwiches.. I took the piece of ham out and only ate the ham because that’s all I could put in my mouth. I had nothing to drink for like 12 hours because I just didn’t feel like drinking anything. I felt completely tired, even though I “slept” for 8 hours, I was zoned out when I was driving and even when I got to work, I just put my head on the table and felt like shit. I kept on yawning when people were talking to me and it was rude, but I just felt completely “out of it”.. I got home, I still felt like I was going to puke – but puke what? I hadn’t ate anything for hours. My heart was still beating super fast so I took my blood pressure and heart rate and it was unusually high compared to normal. All the stress that had come from the argument bebe and I had and all the worries that came afterward. All the “problems” my body had that year she ignored me suddenly came back, I felt like I wasn’t me at all.. it was just constant worry and I just wanted to shoot myself.

      I wanted to cry, so I stepped out to the conservation area behind work so I can breath in fresh air and get my mind of what happened between bebe and I… and how all the things we said to each other HURT so much. I just rested by the tree until I could regain my composure. Then mom called, said her tests were done and to pick her up from the hospital. We went to the mall because I felt completely sick and didn’t want to go home. I was started to get kind of woozy because I hadn’t ate anything or drink anything for so long, so I suggested we go to McDonalds to get some fries or something… but when we got to MickyD’s, I still had no appetite. I kept on thinking/worrying about bebe… I looked at the food people had on their trays and I thought I’d puke or something and my heart began to beat superfast again.

      So then my phone beeped and I got a message from bebe. I swear, immediately my entire DAY just became so bright. She told me that she wanted to let me know she wasn’t talking because something had been bugging her and that it wasn’t because we got into that arugment. Oh my lord, I was soooo relieved… like almost immediately, all my problems went away. My heart went back to normal, I had my appetite back and stuff. We left the mall and MickeyD’s, because I wanted to go home and celebrate, so mom and I went to Fortinos to buy some good food for the night and I spoiled myself with buying food/drinks I would normally not get.

      I returned home so happy, like as if the world’s problems went away! For the rest of the night I had no palpitations, I ate like a monster again, I felt so joyous/upbeat, so relaxed… I wanted to smile, didn’t even feel like wanting to cry and I didn’t feel sick at all. It’s amazing how much bebe has control over my life.. I mean, that may or may not be a good thing, but just that the argument we had totally took a toll on my body. I had already been stressed for the week she was at her friends and that prior night just tipped me over. I was running a thin wire before a nervous breakdown or something. My hands were shaking at work too when I was trying to type and hold things. Once bebe told me that she wasn’t ignoring me over what happened between us, it was like if someone casted life magic on me or something, I just suddenly woke up free of health issues. WTF eh? Just like an hour before that, I felt like I was on the death-list or something, my health was terrible. After we resolved everything, all my ‘problems’ went away… I’m glad, because that was what I went through for a YEAR when she “left” me… and now we’re together again, I don’t ever want to be without her. My health is really tied to bebe and that I suppose is not a very good dependence thing, but at the same time, when bebe is super happy, I am too and feel like I can overcome anything with her power. When she is angry or upset with me, it really affects me (probably more than what’s healthy) – and then I can feel all these health issues (that never existed) surfacing. That’s MESSED, lol.

      But as of today, all is well 😀 Thanks for asking.

      • I’m glad to hear u r feeling so well now n’ tht bebe has cleared evrythg up… must be like 24-hours of hell for u 😦 I want to give u a big huggles to cheer u up! It’s crazy how u can care for sm1 so much tht sicknesses tht u nvr hv culd actually cm up… tht’s y they say, ur health is often an indicator of evrythg that happens arnd u! If bebe wants to keep u arnd longer, she shld definitely tk better care of u too. I can c tht when she’s happy, u gloat n’ u beam like sunshine in the morning!!

        Walah… u nvr told me tht a yr ago u got hand-shake when u worry abt bebe…. is tht new? I know for the longest time u had sleep prob, eat prob and breathing issue, but even ur hand now? U must’ve been reali concerned abt her then… wowee..

        Hard for me to tell u n’ for u to listen… but mk sure u can’t let bebe affect u so much. Think abt it this way… she seems to hv outburst n’ stuff a lot n’ she takes it out on U when she’s in a bad mood… rather than her taking it out on her frds.. so u c, u r special to her in such tht she feels u r a good output for her anger/sadness, coz she knos u will unconditionally care for her, no matter how she treats u! So coz she has outbursts when she’s in bad mood, she needs u to lean on n’ to provide tht moral and support… think abt if u let her affect u so much tht u r down too, then who is going to lift her up when she falls down? So u must stay strong n’ even when she tests ur patience and emotions, u hv to b there 4 her to help her stand up again! I kno it’s kinda unfair tht guys alwayz hv to be on the “receiving” end of us being bitchy… but hey, u chose to b a guy 😀

        • Ya, things are cleared up… now if only she’d respond to my messages at a reasonable hour, lol. I’m considering staying up all night just so I can talk to her, because I think she purposely stays offline during the day knowing that I’ll sleep by 12, haha. Give me a big huggles for sure, I need one… or several.. or many! When I get married though with bebe, you’ll have to fight her for my huggles back 😛 Best thing in the world right now to bebe is if I died, lol, not sure if that “wants to keep you around longer” is applicable XD I think that’d give her that freedom and comfort knowing I’ll never bug her again. Yes, I can be so morbid sometimes… Yes, I’m super happy when she is because when she’s happy, she treats me VERY well!

          I never had the shaking hand issue for that year when she ignored me… it was just mostly not wanting to eat, wanting to throw up and heart would skip-beats… my hands only started shaking this time we got into an argument, because when I was worrying about her at work, I was typing on the keyboard and kept on hitting the wrong keys and when I was holding my mouse, it would keep jumping around the screen because my hands couldn’t stay still. Yes, I was very concerned about the situation, thought that I might’ve had to come up with Plan X if she really gave up on me, lol… good thing I didn’t do anything stupid at the time XD

          Ya, I guess you can see it that way – she knows she can take it out on me and not have consequences because I’ll stand by her. Sometimes I feel a little foolish, not knowing whether this relationship will work out, yet investing so much… but like people say, you won’t know until you try and that miracles happen everyday. Maybe just one time we’ll be on a date and she’ll feel something magical awakening within her that she can let a sigh of relief out and open her heart up to me. It would be grand and right now, I’d almost give anything to see that happen. Why is there that discomfort between us or rather, is there something happening in the background? Someone talking about me? One of her friends don’t think we’re right together? They tease her about me? Something is obviously creating tension between us – but while we BOTH know this relationship is more than what meets the eye… we both care about each other in ways we cannot explain.

          Yes, I do have to stay strong for her. You cannot imagine how many times I’ve thought about proposing an ultimatum to her, but the difference is I’m not in the position to do that. If it was her liking me, I could tell her, “I will like you in return if you…” but since I care about her more than she cares about me, I don’t think she’d care if I actually told her, “You know what? I give up…” — someone actually said to try that on her to make her REALIZE what she is losing on.. but in the end, I may be the one losing, so that’s a very dumb idea. If I wanted to pressure her to accept me, or even force her to accept me, I have other not-so-nice ways of doing so, but for ME to put out the ultimatum and tell her to accept me NOW or it’s over is MY loss, not hers… I can’t go through with something like that and put it on the line… if it comes out from my mouth, then I could finally win her over and forcing her to take me seriously, or I could lose her forever… it’s not a bet I’m willing to take right now. I’d go for a much more devious approach than risking those words coming out of my mouth.

          I didn’t choose to be a guy, lol, I was born a guy. I think it’d be much cooler being a girl 😀 Not only with the whole, having a vagina, boobs, periods and stuff, but girls seem to have so much more fun! Also, I think bebe and I would get along great if I was a girl, she could “accept” me and we’d be lesbians 😆 I could be at sleepovers with her and she’d stay at my house freely, haha. And really, not all girls are that shy and reluctant to carry forth a relationship… so it’s not a matter of us being guys and having to deal with it.

  3. I’m sure she has smthg special planned for u n’ tht y she’s nt giving u ne hints abt it xDD All this time she’s doing all the things she does is probably to keep u off her bk until she can think or prepare for ur occassion la 😛 Juz b positive n’ rather than thinking she is ignoring u or wtevr, tht she has smthg special in store for u 😉 Mebe she might even going to surprize u by letting u meet her frds, haha… n’ tht y she want u to pick her up 😛

    Smtimes us girls really like “occasions”… n’ mebe ur birthday will really bring the most out of bebe, all those deep-down fuzzy feelings she has for u. Dun b disappointed yet to know wt she has planned b4 Sunday… u may find urself vry surprized xDD Dun think it wuld be gd for u to b a girl, she might treat her frds well but ‘the girls’ r a totally different thing n’ relationship than a b/f… altho she may get along well, party w/ them or wtevr, it’s nt the same type of luv frum a relationship. I go crazy w/ my gf but I wuld nt tk ne of them over Joshie 😀 They provide fun times n’ many memories, but still, Joshie n’ I mk our own memories 2gether for yrs to cm ^^

    Itz too bd she doesn’t hv time for ur special day… I’m nt sure y’d she’d book it with her frds KNOWING it is ur bday 😦 but mebe she has a reason…

    This bday… she will try to mk it vry special for u, mebe she’ll give u smthg u alwayz wanted, like a kiss or let u do smthg extra special with her, physical xDD Us girls luv to give guys things u least expect! Mebe she’s juz trying to get herself comfortable enuf in the next few days to let u touch her or hold her hands 😀 I hope she will tell u wt’s wrong soon so u can get it off ur mind coz u seem so distracted today n’ tht shld definitely nt b the case for ur birthday 😦 Cheer up, think abt all the great things u hv arnd u n’ juz consider tht bebe is putting u through a trial period n’ tested u in evryway possible to mk sure u r ‘fit’ to be her lover 😛

    I dun c a fb post from her to u yet xDD Guess she’s nt up yet? kekeke… Zzzzz

    • I guess I’ll find out on Sunday whether this is true. Today is just a crummy day without having her around. My mom really tried to make it special for me and it was nice, I feel loved by her (not that I ever doubted it)… but bebe is bebe and mom is mom. I wanted to spend today with bebe and as much as I wanted to pretend that it didn’t bother me, for some reason now that it is ACTUALLY my birthday, I feel very alone and left-out and also increasing jealous at how her friends hold more importance, I even had a glimpse of hatred, anger and annoyance with how her friends could bear so much weight on her that she would rather spend it with them than me. Worse is she’s just been at their place online for a good portion of the day since she woke up, so we could’ve really used a few hours together which would’ve totally brightened up my day! In the end, I know it’s not her friend’s fault… they invited her out casually and it’s not like they knew it was my birthday – but bebe knew it was…

      Either way.. Sunday…. Oh yes, don’t kid yourself, she is testing me HARDCORE, lol… this is the biggest test ever, probably more than ALL my previous girls put together lol… but I mean she did say something last night that was valid, which was that she is the ONLY girl in her family-line, so it’s important she makes the proper and right decision on the FIRST try… and I’ve given her every reason to believe that I can be the right guy for her, so once she lets that spark of love happen, then we can put it all together!

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